tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post7471031919219343505..comments2024-03-28T22:42:54.810-07:00Comments on Bitter Tea and Mystery: Wartime: Britain 1939-1945TracyKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-56010115472129906292014-06-07T13:36:17.210-07:002014-06-07T13:36:17.210-07:00Anna, the book is a great resource.Anna, the book is a great resource.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-34541706190420422912014-06-06T19:39:01.747-07:002014-06-06T19:39:01.747-07:00This does sound like a great reference book. Than...This does sound like a great reference book. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08046635675540466183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-20086052878094590402014-06-06T18:40:29.670-07:002014-06-06T18:40:29.670-07:00Joy, thanks for all that information. I looked up ...Joy, thanks for all that information. I looked up Sugar in the Blood and it does sound very interesting. I did see Foyle's War... all the episodes and I agree with your comment on that.<br /><br />I have linked up to British Isles Friday. I am sorry, I had intended to link up before, as I usually read a good number of books set in the British Isles, but lately life has been too busy and I forget a lot of what I plan to do. As I told Katie, I don't use twitter or Pinterest.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-49839052089391265252014-06-06T18:29:40.362-07:002014-06-06T18:29:40.362-07:00Sorry, Katie, I don't use twitter or pinterest...Sorry, Katie, I don't use twitter or pinterest. But I appreciate you asking. I was excited to share my non-fiction read and I am trying to read more this year and into the future.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-4281393151364158392014-06-06T13:52:17.298-07:002014-06-06T13:52:17.298-07:00I'm always fascinated by the story of the home...I'm always fascinated by the story of the home front in World War II -- especially in the US and Britain.<br /><br />The Jim Crow Army showed up in a couple of recent historical TV series (Land Girls and Foyle's War). I felt that the TV representation portrayed the English as less racist than they probably were and it looks like Gardiner would agree. <br /><br />I recently read Sugar in the Blood by Andrea Stuart. She points out that the WWII history as represented in museums is white-washed -- not making note of the real contributions that were made by "coloured British subjects" even though their presence was discouraged.<br /><br />This would make a terrific post to link up to British Isles Friday: http://www.joyweesemoll.com/2014/06/06/the-royal-society-and-the-clockwork-universe-brifri-bookreview/<br /><br />And, if you do link up, I'll second DoingDewey's question. It's always fun to share the links on social media.Joy Weese Moll (@joyweesemoll)http://www.joyweesemoll.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-20812807206957631552014-06-06T13:39:06.573-07:002014-06-06T13:39:06.573-07:00Do you have a twitter or a pinterest? I like to sh...Do you have a twitter or a pinterest? I like to share posts linked up to nonfiction Friday and just want to give credit where credit is due :) Either way, thanks for sharing!DoingDeweyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09902496432225294188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-68835217096020287882014-06-03T22:29:12.544-07:002014-06-03T22:29:12.544-07:00There is a lot of good information in this book, R...There is a lot of good information in this book, Ryan. TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-30887451256596736772014-06-03T21:07:08.721-07:002014-06-03T21:07:08.721-07:00I think I'm going to have to get my hands on t...I think I'm going to have to get my hands on this book.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786139533776263328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-44384825848290110212014-06-01T08:22:06.485-07:002014-06-01T08:22:06.485-07:00Kathy, I have read about anti-Semitism in Britain ...Kathy, I have read about anti-Semitism in Britain (and many other countries) at the time. I will have to find that essay by John Lawton. He is one of my favorite authors. One of John Lawton's novels, Second Violin, features internees at the Isle of Man (including Jewish immigrants). TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-89209570997939064862014-06-01T01:22:30.280-07:002014-06-01T01:22:30.280-07:00Two things come to mind:
A friend who is now in h...Two things come to mind:<br /><br />A friend who is now in her 80s lived in England and during the blitz, she and her siblings went sent to rural areas, to farms to live with other families. She told me that she and her siblings had to eat in the kitchen, and not in the dining room with the biological family members. Also, they were Jewish, which could have been a factor.<br /><br />In fact, there was anti-Semitism among the British establishment, the rich, politicians, government officials, etc. Author John Lawton wrote a fascinating essay about anti-Semitism in the British establishment prior to and during WWII.<br /><br />I recall reading somewhere that often Jewish immigrants were sent to the Isle of Man as suspicious characters, along with suspected Nazis -- and transported in the same vehicle, train, ship, etc. They must have been terrified.<br /><br />Have you heard of this practice? What insensitivity!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-25761996298959696712014-05-31T12:59:10.354-07:002014-05-31T12:59:10.354-07:00Sarah, my father was in the military in World War ...Sarah, my father was in the military in World War II (in India and China I think, not in Europe), and he loved to read (and talk) about that period. But no one else I knew really experienced much of the war, especially from a civilian's point of view, so I learned a lot.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-19237794083071921742014-05-31T04:31:21.596-07:002014-05-31T04:31:21.596-07:00This sounds like my kind of thing, Trace and I wan...This sounds like my kind of thing, Trace and I want to read more non-fiction. Britain at war is a fascinating subject and I remember my grandmother telling me lots of stories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-69977212811069654102014-05-29T19:49:03.438-07:002014-05-29T19:49:03.438-07:00I agree, Neer. And prejudice was (and is) all over...I agree, Neer. And prejudice was (and is) all over the place, in every country, against some minority or group not in favor. Appalling, but true.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-79415317914205417942014-05-29T19:46:28.567-07:002014-05-29T19:46:28.567-07:00I do enjoy historical fiction set before, during a...I do enjoy historical fiction set before, during and after WWII, Kathy. But some of the non-fiction is unbearable reading about the atrocities of the war. I could not finish the 2nd book by Richard J. Evans about the development of the Third Reich, The Third Reich in Power, about the buildup to the war.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-83462737929541727192014-05-29T18:33:51.131-07:002014-05-29T18:33:51.131-07:00It is interesting to note that though Britain migh...It is interesting to note that though Britain might have been shrill against the Nazi's persecution of the Jews, its own policies discriminated against Blacks and other colonial people despite the fact that they were fighting on the side of the Allies. Prejudice, apparently, is hard to overcome.neerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01986509319841061021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-53026773299385265262014-05-29T13:45:36.412-07:002014-05-29T13:45:36.412-07:00I'm not into reading about either world war, j...I'm not into reading about either world war, just can't deal with it. I know enough for my own satisfaction, and do not want to read about the terrible toll of death, injury and PTSD from WWI foisted on the soldiers, nor about the horrors of WWII.<br /><br />Also, I need to relax and be distracted and entertained when I read. Not to say that I don't like profound reads, I do, but not about war.<br /><br />"The Red Road" by Denise Mina, my latest read, had enough grit for me. It's unrelenting in some ways, ties together so many issues and it's a tough read. But in the end, it's rewarding, and Mina's brilliance is obvious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-2976823975306848782014-05-29T12:21:37.902-07:002014-05-29T12:21:37.902-07:00Moira, I don't blame your mother. I am sure I ...Moira, I don't blame your mother. I am sure I would feel the same way. Over the last few years I have tried to learn much more about the WWII experience and have grasped the fact that it is a huge subject. Glen and I watched a 20 episode documentary series and it just scratched the surface.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-12098946056592116712014-05-29T11:25:55.935-07:002014-05-29T11:25:55.935-07:00That sounds fascinating Tracy, and as I think I sa...That sounds fascinating Tracy, and as I think I said before, I have read another book by her and know how good she is. My mother lived through bombing - the northern city of Liverpool was a key target and was bombed regularly. She lived near the docks, prime target, and their house was hit several times - eventually the family had to move elsewhere. She has lived a long and happy life since, but she does say she doesn't particularly want to eg watch TV programmes about the war. Clothes In Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14680610242823846662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-47053310514933975832014-05-28T22:58:13.311-07:002014-05-28T22:58:13.311-07:00Yes, he has been reading some very disturbing non-...Yes, he has been reading some very disturbing non-fiction. About the Nazis, and one called Iron Curtain. Very interesting stuff but I probably would not read much of it.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-42118873668393730922014-05-28T22:50:11.743-07:002014-05-28T22:50:11.743-07:00I was having a look at a book Norman (Crimescraps)...I was having a look at a book Norman (Crimescraps) was reading - "Fascist Voices" - an intimate history of Fascist Italy.That looks more appealing to me, though again the length at 500+ pages has me pausing.col2910https://www.blogger.com/profile/06422138069939709043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-18471316523450324242014-05-28T22:01:33.763-07:002014-05-28T22:01:33.763-07:00I might push this one more, Col, were it shorter. ...I might push this one more, Col, were it shorter. But if it took me a year to get through... I was glad I read it, and I learned a lot, but ...TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-61340058588673046792014-05-28T21:58:09.929-07:002014-05-28T21:58:09.929-07:00Another pass for me TBH, though its a reminder tha...Another pass for me TBH, though its a reminder that I ought to read some non-fiction soon.col2910https://www.blogger.com/profile/06422138069939709043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-55741366523578060072014-05-28T19:30:57.038-07:002014-05-28T19:30:57.038-07:00It is, Rebecca. For anyone who likes to read non-f...It is, Rebecca. For anyone who likes to read non-fiction, I highly recommend it. My husband reads much more non-fiction than I do, and he loaned it to me. He also has the book about the Blitz that she wrote.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-50320020236726247482014-05-28T19:25:58.384-07:002014-05-28T19:25:58.384-07:00Bill, that is a fascinating story. Based on what I...Bill, that is a fascinating story. Based on what I read, the people who lived in some areas of the country were in very scary situations a lot of the time.TracyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303342674824383688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4167054806459662988.post-53139352527085324902014-05-28T17:57:52.074-07:002014-05-28T17:57:52.074-07:00This sounds like an interesting read, Tracy: it...This sounds like an interesting read, Tracy: it's something I know little about as well.RebeccaKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14720581274534125405noreply@blogger.com